02 Class THU SEP 08

02 Class THU SEP 08

Writing Quote Thomas Mann


Warmup

Housekeeping / Mechanics

  • Class Notes
    • For Participation Grades
    • Name the Takeaways / Specific Lessons
    • Make bold, specific claims
    • Avoid “Talked About” Language

Web Skills

Demonstration

Class Photos

Class Discussion

  • The Stanford Prison “Experiment”

Lecture

Today’s New Tasks

  • Task: Preliminary Draft of My Hypothesis
    • DUE before class TUE SEP 13 (11:59pm MON SEP 12)

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100 Responses to 02 Class THU SEP 08

  1. In Class Notes:

    – An empty bottle of scotch is just an empty bottle. There has to be scotch in it to be
    considered a bottle of scotch. It is however, an empty scotch bottle.

    – Good class notes are purposeful summaries. They only contain the valuable information that was shared. They are the main takeaways from the class.

    – The House of Commons was destroyed and Winston Churchill had an idea for how to rebuild it. “We shape our buildings, and afterwards our buildings shape us.”
    – Disagreeing parties should face each other with just enough space so violence cannot be used.
    – The 10 skekels for lateness only increased the parents’ lateness. It made parents more likely to be late because they knew the consequence ahead of time.

    – The military was trying to prove if power created brutality or if it was caused by human nature and has no situational influence.
    – They wanted to know more about the guards and if those people could conform to the role they were thrown into it. The power dynamic in the prison environment was studied to better understand prisoners of war. Would a volunteer prisoner act the same way as a POW who has not volunteered?
    – The volunteers forgot they were in an experiment and they thought it was reality. One prisoner said he couldn’t leave because he didn’t want to be a bad prisoner and be seen as weak by the others.
    – Zimbardo also conformed to his role and really stepped up to the prison superintendent.
    – The prison was cleaned and made to look nicer than the actual conditions when the parents came for a visit. They didn’t want the rest of the world to see what they were doing to the prisoners because they knew it was wrong.

    – The research argument paper will be 3000 words and include three different arguments. It will be about ten pages and will be worked on the entire semester. Get 10,000 words worth of argument into 3000 words.
    – Three 1000 word arguments.
    – Your hypothesis can be changed, but only when you find a better one.

  2. fatboy489zt's avatar fatboy489zt says:

    -As we begin the class, we start off with a riddle that helps everybody begin to think to help everybody wake up.
    -We continue to see the difference between what good notes/research can be seen as and what bad notes can be seen as. Good notes/research leads us to prove all of our research and leave the reader surprised instead of just saying this and that. Explain why it is this and that instead of just telling me that it is this and that.
    – “We shape our buildings, and afterwards our buildings shape us”, the guy saying that he didn;t know if his own people were able to handle a life or death situation, and the singer not knowing what he was doing. What do all these different things have in common? It shows us that there is always more things to learn about and that there is always more to us than we know.

    After class discussion about the experiment
    What really changed the students? Was it the power they were holding or was it just human behavior that led to the downhill of the entire project. It goes along the lines of the guards being described as some being good, “tough but fair”, and some that were just plain out abusing their power. This most likely would end up lead to a personality change at some point so that they would be able to continuously adopt this role. The guards were even taking it to the level where they understood that what they were doing was extremely dehumanizing. When they figured out it was visitors’ day, they would spruce up the place so that it wouldn’t look as disgusting as it was.

  3. rubes1256's avatar rubes1256 says:

    CLASS NOTES
    -A bottle of scotch can never be an empty bottle of scotch, it can only either be an empty scotch bottle or a bottle emptied of scotch
    -Good class notes are a purposeful summery of the material
    -They are important points that you will want to remember for later
    -Should be looking for “takeaways”
    -Whatever you are looking for doesn’t matter, it is all about what you find
    -A dead link isn’t necessarily a dead end
    -The Wayback Machine can allow you to access dead links and websites that no longer exist in todays internet
    -London’s congress was bombed in 1941, which allowed London to possibly redesign the congress building, but instead they made it in the same way that it was originally built
    -This is due to the fact that the layout was already great for a congress building, forcing both parties to face each other and talk to each other
    -The Stanford Prison Experiment
    -A professor makes students flip a coin to pick whether they are going to be guards or prisoners
    -The navy wanted to see whether it was the guards or the environment made prisons so bad
    -The prisoners took off their prison numbers as a form of rebellion
    -Rejecting the poor conditions is considered misbehaving, and misbehaving would lead to worse conditions

  4. The empty bottle of scotch riddle is an example of how the english language can be misinterpreted.
    Good notes should be a meaningful summary.
    They can also lead you down a hole. Do not research to prove something you previously hypothesized. The subject of research can change after doing said research.
    The Wayback Machine. It goes back, way. Can find old versions of internet pages.
    Counter-intuitiveness:
    Kiss From a Rose is a banger. Seal says, “I didn’t know you couldn’t” when asked how he made a pop song with unusual qualities. What a guy.
    4’33” was a conceptual piece where the performer played nothing for four minutes and 33 seconds. The ambient sounds of the auditorium was the piece.
    In Israel, the government imposed a 10 sheckle fine on parents who didn’t pick their kids up on time. They ended up picking them up late anyways, in fact more frequently.
    The Stanford Prison Experiment:
    Why did so many people stay? People rebelled the first day, they gave them worse conditions. The guards came up with very cruel ways to punish the prisoners and label them good or bad regardless of action. Some people fell into the roles so well they forgot it was an experiment.

  5. Class Notes
    Good Class Notes: purposeful summaries that highlight the takeaways of the lecture. Good notes should not talk about what was discussed word for word, but should include important information that is helpful later on.
    10 Shekels for Lateness: Parents are charged 10 Shekels after failing to pick up their children from daycare repeatedly.
    The Stanford Prison Experiment: (Pre-Class Notes)
    In the 1970s, The US Navy researched the environments in prisons to see the balances of power behind bars.
    In 1971, A mock prison was set up by Psychologist ____ Zimbardo, to demonstrate the misuse of power by guards to their inmates. It portrayed the inside of a real prison, along with tendencies that guards may have in real detention centers. 70 college students applied for the experiment, but after behavioral tests only 24 were inserted into the experiment. Prisoners were subject to many different psychological punishments. Some include; being blindfolded while being escorted to the bathroom having their head shaved, identified only by sequences of numbers, or wearing thin gowns with no undergarments’. Many ‘prisoners’ were so convinced that they were actually locked up, that they started going crazy. They also would not realize they were apart of an experiment, unless they were snapped out of the sort of trance they were in. (more continued on paper, have yet to type it up.)

  6. duck312's avatar duck says:

    Good notes vs Bad notes
    Good notes are purposeful summaries, which means not everything is going to get summarized, only the most important parts of the class. Good notes include depth and detail, not shallow statements with no substance to them. Claims in notes should be purposeful claims.

    Research
    Research isn’t about what you’re looking for, but rather what you find. Hypotheses are bound to change as you further research down your rabbit hole you chose to go down.

    10 Shekels for Lateness
    A daycare in Israel had an issue with parents coming to pick up their students late, so they introduced a 10 shekel fine for anyone who showed up late to pick up their kid. After this fine was instated, more parents became late to pick up their kids, because they valued their time at more than 10 shekels, thus making the fine counterintuitive.

    Stanford Prison Experiment
    Professor/researcher had college students at Stanford flip a coin to be placed as either a guard or prisoner in a makeshift prison in the basement of one of their classroom buildings. This experiment was used to tell whether or not people will abuse their power, or whether or not the prisoners would fight back, or assume a victim role immediately. Prisoners ended up revolting, and guards ended up abusing their power and playing favorites. Prisoner’s food was unevenly rationed, and their living conditions were poor.

    Hypothesis
    Should be like a speed date, idea does not, and most likely will not, need to be 100% concrete and the same for the entirety of the time the paper is being written.

  7. Before Class Notes-
    3:42 Crazy they were not given underwear and only a gown. This already starts the process of dehumanization
    6:30 Banned using the bathroom at night and were only allowed to use a bucket. Keep in mind there were three people to a cell
    7:30-8:41 It’s a little crazy to think that they signed up for this experiment but were treated so harshly by the other experiments they broke down crying and had to be released.
    9:10 Prisoner 819 had to be pulled aside and reminded this wasn’t a real prison.
    The experiment turned out to be so horrifying they decided to stop the experiment after 6 days instead of going to
    Zimbardo even admitted that he overlooked being the one who was doing the experiment and tended more towards his role as a Prison Warden

    In Class Notes-
    Riddle was all about the language used to describe the bottle of scotch.
    Reshape the narrative of the original material.
    Do not try to summarize everything. You want to review the most important/memorable thing about the class.
    Original hypothesis always has room to improve
    “As soon as you start smelling the puppies that are down the rabbit hole you can abandon that idea”. It doesn’t matter where you start, it all matters where you end and the view you give your readers throughout your paper.
    Use Wayback machine to look for reposts after it disappears from original URL
    10 Shekels for Lateness- People who ran the daycare center decided they would have to penalize whoever showed up late. The experiment would only be conducted on half of the parents. Tardiness soon skyrocketed because parents realized there time was more valuable than 10 shekels.
    Was the Stanford prison experiment really an experiment?- You want to find out if the guards are the reason for something. Or can I create an environment that I put fresh people in to create something.
    Think of the hypothesis as a two minute speeddate. Fine tune it till it sounds more worthwhile.

  8. Caravan's avatar Caravan says:

    In-Class Discussion:

    The riddle about the empty bottle of scotch is more about precision in language than anything else. You might refer to something as an empty bottle of scotch (or any drink) repeatedly and never have anyone question it, but if you prioritize using language precisely it is technically poor phrasing.

    Good class notes are like purposeful summaries. They don’t try to summarize everything, they reshape the narrative for the writer’s own purpose and needs. They remind the writer what was most important and encompass the main takeaways. For notes or for a hypothesis, we may go down the rabbit hole of research expecting and seeking out particular information or conclusions, but it is better to embrace the process instead and know that it may take you places you don’t expect.

    Bad class notes describe “What we talked about.” without much information on what conclusions we actually reached or information we learned. Good notes make clear and specific claims and succinctly describe what was learned and demonstrate that you thought about the big takeaways as opposed to just writing down what was said to you without showing a deeper understanding.

    The House of Commons was structured in such a way as to make the parties face each other directly and be seated farther away than 2 sword lengths, all in order to encourage more considerate dialogue and symbolize a rejection of violence.

    The daycare expected penalties for late pickups to disincentivize late pickups, but instead it did the complete opposite because it gave away the fact that late pickups were not treated with that much severity. Not knowing the consequences was a more effective motivator and a known and small consequence for reducing late pickups. Put another way, the fear of the unknown was more effective.

    Often the word “insanity” is just used in substitution for something bad or morally wrong, but people can commit a horrible act and still be perfectly aware of their actions and their consequences, moral and legal. In other words, they’re sane by the actual definition of “sanity”. Emotional expression tends to lead to using language less precisely, particularly negative emotion.

  9. tacotyphoon's avatar tacotyphoon says:

    Class notes (COMP II 09/08/22)
    -there is no such thing as an empty bottle of scotch, why?
    -how we use/phrase words is very important, we don’t want to be misinterpreted
    -How to take good class notes: don’t summarize everything, reviews the important details that need to be memorized, and use your own words to paraphrase the authors’ POV in a way YOU can remember
    -notes are the main focus/points/themes of what was discussed
    -contains what is important and what needs to be remembered at later dates
    -research can lead us down many unexpected paths
    -final papers are publications of what you found doing your research, not how you found it or what you were trying to find
    – Counterintuitive journals: there are a lot of unexpected outcomes that can happen during research
    -when conducting an experiment, you must have a clear hypothesis you are trying to prove
    -the rebellion in the experiment started a lot faster than anticipated
    -hypothesis draft is due September 12 @11:59pm
    -think of it as a “speed date”, this is not your final choice, you’re just getting to know the “person”

  10. 1:45-The experiment involved only white male participants. This definitely brings down the authenticity of the study because of the lack of diversity.
    3:46-Surprising how fast the guards turned vicious, since they were only just volunteers not too long before.
    4:43- It seems like a rebellion would have been unprecedented for the experiment and should have raised some red flags.
    5:38- Interesting how the guards were able to come up with such brutal tactics so quickly without prior experience.
    6:06- surprising that the experiment was allowed to go on with such a blatant unfair punishment like not getting any food.
    7:20- In the same way it’s hard to watch the guards be totally consumed by their roles, it’s hard watching the prisoners also be brainwashed into believing they deserve this.
    9:43- Seems like Zimbardo only cared to stop the experiment when he was pressured to, not because he knew he should have.

    https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/6/28/17509470/stanford-prison-experiment-zimbardo-interview
    Zimbardo comes off as very defensive and annoyed. This makes sense because it is his work being discussed, but it also gives the impression that he might be blinded to even come to a sensible conclusion such as some prisoners faking their reactions. The fact that he only considers it a “demonstration” makes me assume he already knows the study was too flawed to be taken into the same academic account it might have been before. He seems to blame the public for misunderstanding it. In my opinion, there are lots of reasons to question the study not only pertaining to the recent developments that have come out.

    https://www.verywellmind.com/the-stanford-prison-experiment-2794995
    This goes over a lot of the problems I thought the original study had including the lack of a diverse sample size. Also watching the video I thought the prison setting might have caused more issues and the article talks about that and the lack of realism. There was already a set dynamic in place and expectations for both of those roles. Everyone has ideas of what cops and prisoners act like, even if it is not the correct one. There is a good chance the participants “acted” in these ways which would be against the idea of the study.

    Class notes
    There’s no such thing as an empty bottle of a scotch riddle that shows how language can be interpreted in different ways if not expressed correctly.
    Everybody should write the same when it comes to argumentative writing. The best writing is a complex idea addressed simply.
    Good Class Notes: These are purposeful summary that reviews the most important ideas and takeaways, and makes clear and specific claims.
    Research can lead you down a rabbit hole, the best research leads to something unexpected and new, “what is found, not what was being looked for” Prove what is found.
    Wayback Machine: can be used to recover dead links using the URL.
    British Parlement- opponents forced to face each other during discussions.
    Stanford prison experiment:
    Was an experiment meant to analyze power dynamics in military prisons. Discussed why all the students stayed in such bad conditions, possibilities included being paid or being forced to stay. Random adoption of “favorites” caused mistrust between prisoners.
    Hypothesis due Tuesday- think of it as a “speed date” of the topic.

  11. Notes
    Professor wants us to all write the same but differently as well
    Riddles are just plays on language
    Notes should look like a purposeful summary/compilation of takeaways; capturing the things that matter without the fluff
    When creating a meaningful paper means going down the rabbithole looking for rabbits but also anything else
    Try to avoid meaningless bullet points
    Error 404 can be avoided specifically by using rowan account to access the campbell library
    If a link is dead searching the website may work but the wayback machine can help “revive” or rediscover dead links
    Kiss from a Rose shows that even if you subvert or defy the norm you can still create something monumental
    Picking a lateral topic to your original will create a more interesting paper

  12. Gir's avatar Gir says:

    poem- “Empty Bottle of Scotch”, There is no such thing as an empty bottle of scotch because there is no more scotch so its just an empty bottle, speaks about our language and how weird it is.
    Goodnotes- Good notes dont need to summarize everything. Rabbit hole analogy describing paths to find good notes and look for more than the “Rabbit” in the rabbit hole. Clear, specific claims and useful summaries make good notes.
    Wayback Machine- Useful site (already knows what it is) that traces histories of websites and can take you back to certain dates in a website. Useful for dead ends in research.

    “We shape our buildings; thereafter they shape us.” -Winston Churchill

    “4:33” famous song, piano player sits down fidgets and sets a stopwatch does nothing for 4:33 minutes gets up and walks away. the song is the crowds hush and murmurs and nothing. 4’33” quotes, 4 | 33 || is time while the other is height.

    10 Skelels for Lateness- a fine that was enforced onto parents who didn’t pick up their kids from the daycare on time. Only made parents pick up their kids later and later.

  13. usmnt23's avatar usmnt23 says:

    The bottle of scotch riddle was more an insight into our language and how careful you have to clearly express your thoughts/opinions
    Good notes create a purposeful summary reshaping the narrative of the original material to suit the purpose of the summarizer
    Connects to future needs and improvement rather than just stating what happened so that when it is reviewed the most important parts of the class are easily accessible
    Finding an unexpected new topic through you research is the best outcome (keeps the idea of revise and review) and it’s ok to change topics to develop the best work possible
    A dead link isn’t necessarily a dead end because you could use the wayback machine which takes a url and finds reposts of that article that are still accessible
    Counterintuitiveness is a restful topic to delve into because it opens the minds eyes to new ways of thinking and approaching topics of discussion
    It is necessary to look at the other side of arguments and respect the presence of the other point of view to create an effective argument
    Punctuation is another important facet of clearly expressing your point of view
    When thinking of a possible solution or answer to a question you have to consider all possible results especially if the subject being effected is variable to change
    Hypothesis are needed to run a successful experiment but the hypothesis needs to be unbiased toward one side so that the experiment isn’t influenced in such a way to favor a certain outcome
    Hypothesis due before class on Tuesday but just need an idea of one, doesn’t need to be the one you stick to just a topic you find interesting

  14. usmnt23's avatar usmnt23 says:

    Prison Experiment Notes:
    Commissioned by US Navy and Marine Corp makes me wonder if they knew the extent that the experiment would go to or had any influence on the decisions made
    Question of was the prison environment shaped my the prison environment or the personality of the guards
    Flaw in experiment could be it was just done with white men and it took out all the people who had criminal records, drug abuse or mental issues
    It feels eerie that this type of experiment was able to be done simulating a harsh prison life to innocent people (small rooms, blindfolded, solitary confinement rooms)
    Seems totally unethical stripping them all down, referring to each other as numbers, having their legs chained → recipe for dehumanization
    Unsettled by the extent that the guards could abuse the inmates to “maintain order” → withhold food, harassment, deprivation of privileges and basically anything short of physical violence
    I felt happy when the prisoners rebelled almost immediately and refused to be dehumanized and mistreated
    Guards then willingly worked longer hours to deal with this uprising showing the struggle to maintain power
    Surprised with how resourceful the guards were to create distrust among the inmates by creating the privileged room then randomly moving people in and out of there
    Sad that the guards didn’t stop there though and further tried to dehumanize the prisoners with bucket in their cell for the bathroom and leaving it there
    They also didn’t stop even with warnings from higher authorities
    Scared when the prisoners then became submissive and sick physically and mentally → person needing to be released from the experiment
    Shocked how quickly the prisoners perceptions changed from being in an experiment to actual prisoners
    Not surprised by the different types of guards – harsh but fair, doesn’t punish the inmates, and extremely harsh to prisoners
    Fearful how the prisoner almost was in a complete daze and detached to reality saying that they are a bad prisoner and must stay then being confused when told he is in an experiment
    Glad that the experiment was cut short but scared to see how the power and role dynamic even reached the top person
    Impressed that in 2002 Zimbardo was elected president of the American Psychological Association because of the totally unethical and well known experiment he ran

  15. fatboy489zt's avatar fatboy489zt says:

    Before class discussion about the experiment

    While watching the video explaining what the Stanford prison experiment actually was, it left me in a disgusted state of mind thinking what led to that point where the guards were treating the prisoners like that. I was more in a surprised mindset more than having my expectations disappointed. I continued to wonder how worried the parents could have been since their college kid wasn’t able to communicate with them for that amount of time. Especially with how they were getting treated. Making them use buckets as a way to use the bathroom, stripping them naked from time to time, and even making them sleep on the floor would completely change the mentality of most people in the world. An example of this was the one kid who was going to be let free but didn’t even want to leave since he actually began to think that he was actually in a prison. To be forced to leave from a place that dehumanized you when you wanted to stay there left me to wonder how might the other prisoners might be thinking.

  16. McCormick Karner's avatar hollyp715 says:

    Stanford Prison Experiment:
    The Navy approached Phil Zimbardo, psychologist, about performing an experiment to find out if it was the power the guards had that turned them brutal or if it was just human nature.
    1:30 ish – ad was sent out requesting for male college students for experiment, stating that they would receive $15 a day for two weeks. I found it interesting how many people applied (70) and how many were weeded out so quickly based on personality tests, drug history, and criminal record (24 white male college students were selected to participate).
    2:30 – Volunteers arrested by real cops shocked me, it just seemed extreme for the experiment. Prison-like setting constructed in the basement, with three prisoners in each cell. A closet was converted into a solitary confinement cell. I believe this setup was realistic, but a bit harsh for the volunteers. However, it is what they signed up for.
    3:20 – Prisoners were stripped and given a dress to wear as their clothes, but guards got a full, realistic uniform with props.
    3:40 – Guards quickly became “soulless and sadistic,” as they were told to maintain order by “any means necessary, short of physical violence.” I began to question if starving the prisoners was any better than physical violence.
    4:51 – Second morning of experiment – prisoners ripped numbers off of their clothes and barricaded themselves inside cells, as the treatment was already becoming too much to handle.
    6:30 – Guards quickly dehumanized the prisoners, making them call out their own number and giving them a bucket to use as a bathroom at night (which they eventually stopped cleaning as additional punishment). This raises a lot of red flags for me, so I cannot comprehend why it would not do the same for Zimbardo.
    7:00 – After 36 hours, the first prisoner began to show signs of genuine distress (uncontrollable crying, rage, disorganized thoughts, etc.) He needed to be released.
    8:50 – Prisoners became immersed in the role and did not understand that they could leave. Believed they were “bad prisoners”
    9:34 – On the sixth day, Zimbardo decided to prematurely end the study after Christina Maslack confronted him about the study and how horrific it was. Without an outside perspective would the experiment have continued for much longer?

    Britannica.com:
    Experiment quickly received criticism for ethical concerns. Zimbardo recognized his faults in the experiment, which I found respectable. Similar experiment was conducted by the British Broadcasting Corporation, but found that the prisoners were more assertive, which led others to believe that Zimbardo “imposes tyranny.”
    Simply Psych:
    Authority was asserted almost immediately, forcing physical punishment (push-ups, some with others on their backs), special privileges, consequences, and more. This article highlights the unique attributes of the experiment and how the volunteers played into their roles.

    Class Notes:
    There is such a thing as good notes, which includes specificity (takeaways) being stated and a sense of confidence in the note taking. Good notes do not leave the reader confused, but help them understand the topic of discussion.
    Do not limit yourself to one topic at the start of your hypothesis! As the graphic in class shows, just because you start on one path does not mean you cannot steer towards another. Hypotheses are meant to be critiqued.
    Bring a hypothesis to the next class – this will be the start of the rest of the semester.
    We will spend the next 15 weeks writing a 3,000 word paper (roughly 10 pages) about our hypothesis. It will be broken down into three sections so we do not have to prepare the 3,000 words right away, we will build up to it. Must provide 10-15 sources at the end of semester as well.

  17. Redbird11123's avatar Redbird11123 says:

    Good notes dont really summarize more so pair phasing it.Good notes reshape the narrative of the material to suit.For example going in a rabbit hole and finding a rabbit.Dont let your mind just find a rabbit, think out side the box bc you can find other thing like a puppy.Good notes make it clear and specific claimsBad notes describe what we talked about and you give a summary not paring phasing.
    way back machine in internet long memory.Class discussion was prisoner, the ones who was Prevage started ratting out the others.College when in with it because they was getting money and college students know that they need money.Also the prisoner started to think that there roles was acuity true.

  18. -Good notes modify the source material’s narrative to serve the summarizer’s objectives.
    -I feel like the Stanford Prison Experiment was dehumanizing in ways and also could be viewed as unethical, the participants would be chosen as a prisoner or prison guard by flipping a coin
    -This experiment was to see how individuals would react with the lessened power or increase of power whether you are a prisoner or prison guard
    -Zimbardo who is running the experiment, is a psychologist and a professor and he is looking to see if the prison environment with their assigned roles would impact the treatment given by the participants
    -According to the homepage of the Stanford Prison Experiment, the prison guards were allowed to make up their own rules as long as they stayed in the guidelines from the professor
    -More than 70 individuals were given interviews to be apart of the experiment
    -The empty bottle of scotch can show how difficult the english language can be to interpret because of the specific wording to phrases we speak everyday.

  19. shxrkbait's avatar shxrkbait says:

    9/8 Class Notes
    Before class today, I came in early to discuss my hypothesis technique. We discussed the defense of insanity in court cases. We went over how planned events/crimes make people say this person is insane but in court, this crime would not officially be declared legally insane. A strategically planned crime to make a point or statement like someone going to an NRA Convention, buying an AR, and then committing a mass shooting will sound like insanity to us and it is insane. But it cannot be declared legally insane because this person knew what they were doing, there was a cause, and this was a planned event.
    When class started today went over how to write good class notes. Good class notes should be descriptive and summarized. You cannot write down everything that happens but it is best to summarize each thing we did in detail so that when looking back you can recall what we went over.
    It was discussed that our research and class notes could lead us down a rabbit hole. Good notes are taken when you go down the rabbit hole and find the rabbit. Even better class notes are taken when you find a puppy first and don’t continue searching. It is always best to take what you find and publish it instead of keep searching and getting lost in your work.
    We discussed counterintuitive which is something that goes against your usual intuition.
    For example, we listened to Seal discuss, in a short clip, how he didn’t know you couldn’t do that with musical beats when creating the song “Kiss from a Rose”. This is an example of counterintuitive as he went against what we consider the norm.
    We then discussed The Stanford Experiment and the effects it had on the participants. The purpose of the experiment was to judge how power and authority change the personality and actions of one. This experiment was unsuccessful as the guards took on a brutal role and the inmates began to experience extreme emotional distress.
    We also went over what to expect for our research paper. When writing this 3,000-word paper it is going to be important to keep all readers interested no matter what their stance on the argument is. You want to be sure to discuss the strongest counterargument and then argue why yours is less flawed. In order to write a good research paper, we should have no less than 7 sources.

  20. xephos1's avatar xephos1 says:

    0:16 – “…or whether brutality was actually intrinsic to human nature itself.”
    This really shocked me that this thought has even occurred. Saying brutality is essential to human nature is a really hard pill to swallow. I definitely believe that through the test of time and human history, brutality was almost always an issue so saying this might not be too far off.

    1:42 – “24 college students all white and all male were selected”
    This part disappointed me because I would have figured that there would be some diversity in an experiment like this where in an actual prison setting you would have people of all makes in the mix.

    4:38 – I find it disappointing that when the prisoners weren’t following the instructions, the guards just made them do push-ups. For as rough as this experiment is, you would think they would have a bit harsher of a punishment.

    7:45 – Another thing that disappointed me was the fact that the people that were a part of the experiment actually fed into the roles they were assigned to. The prisoners actually believed they were prisoners etc. What disappointed me about this was that they know that they are in an experiment, why would they succumb to the temporary role they were given?

    VeryWellMind website
    It’s interesting to note that the experiment consisted of all people who had no criminal records nor any mental problems which drives home the fact that these volunteers were subject to things that normally they wouldn’t have been subjected to.

    Vox
    Zimbardo is trying to make it seem that he didn’t do anything wrong, even going as far as to threaten to hang up the phone
    Zimbardo really feels the need to deny everything that he is being accused almost as if he feels the experiment was ethical

    Class Discussion Notes
    Taking good notes is all about summarizing the most important ideas without all the extra unnecessary details.
    While taking notes be sure to only include details with actual meaning.
    When doing research, you enter through a rabbit hole in search of a rabbit while on your search you find a puppy so settle for the puppy meaning that while you are on the hunt for what you think you want, you may find something else that’s better.
    10 shekels for lateness was a policy that was used by a school in order to shame people to pick up their children. However, this in turn allowed for more latenesses on the parent’s part, thus being counterintuitive.
    Seal’s “Kiss From A Rose” is proof that even something that is totally abnormal can still be a great piece of work
    Finding a hypothesis is like speed dating in the fact that you are going to keep going through them until you find the right one.

  21. bitagaming's avatar bitagaming says:

    Before class note
    Beginning of the video points out the purpose of this experiment, when somebody was put in a position to gain the power to make the prison guards brutal or whether that brutality is human nature.
    People who join this experiment will be separated into 2 groups, one is a guard and the other one is a prisoner by using a coin.
    At 4:45 of the video, the prisoners decided to rebel because they could not because they can’t stand the oppression from the guards and life in prison is too harsh for the common man, they are not even named instead each person has a number like an ID number, they are not allowed identified by their real name. names but with only a series of numbers, representing madness and shame.
    The extremely bad living environment in the prison makes people feel uncomfortable, inhibited, they completely control all activities, all behaviors, even just 5 minutes to go to the toilet but still have to go to the toilet. born. Use pots to serve individual needs.
    9:05 Zimbardo’s decided to cut off the experiment it also remind other people that it just a experiment. His passing shows us the carelessness of the experiment, which, although it was only an experiment, had a huge impact on the participants. When ordinary people suddenly gain power, they change, in a positive or negative way, some guards are kind and there are guards who treat prisoners badly. such as push-ups, physical and mental punishment, if violated can not eat.

  22. gymrat230's avatar gymrat230 says:

    Takeaways From 8 am Class Today
    Good Class Notes
    Purposeful summaries
    Reshape the narrative of the original material to suit the purpose of the summarizer
    Takeaways, not topics
    Make clear specific claims.
    The Wayback machine can be a very useful tool if we’re having trouble finding an old URL that we need for our research papers.
    To be counterintuitive; when we talk about being counterintuitive it seems as if we mean that we’ve been doing something or saying something all of our lives, and when we go to point out that we’ve been doing a said task we find out that it’s not the norm?
    Counterintuitiveness brings about an opposite reaction that we are looking for.
    Stanford Experiment In-Class Discussion
    The discussion so far is making me question whether or not the Navy’s hand in the experiment was determining the best type of guards or whether or not the experiment was truly for prison reform. I believe that the experiment should have been based on case studies on actual prisons not using random subjects. For the sense of testing power dynamics the experiment was a success, everyone who participated in the experiment seamlessly adapted to their roles, but for the research on “prison reform” that Zimbarddo exclaimed the experiment was for.
    Research Persuasive Argument
    To catch an audience with your argument paper you want to start with a bang. Take your opponent’s strongest argument, acknowledge said argument, and then refute it, that way the rest of your paper can be spent supporting your stance. We need to remember that our summary of sources needs to be purposeful, and cut out all of the b.s. And make your argument concise and strong!

  23. Class Notes:

    -With the riddle there are no empty bottles of scotch is true because it is a bottle empty of scotch
    -Takeaways and specific notes make sure you get to the point with no BS
    -If you have a link that comes up with the 404 code and the link could not be found go to Waybook and paste the link into there. Its a website that finds all of those pages that can’t be found regularly
    -Having a certain design on something makes you adapt to it in a good way and makes the best out of you and it should never be changed. If it is changed it can feel uncomfortable and make you feel different that can be in a bad way. Winston Churchhill once say “We shape our buildings, and afterwards our buildings shape us”
    -Bishop Desmond was on a plane and describes the ride as “the mother and father of turbulence” after there was a pilot and copilot that were both African American. Desmond won the nobel prize award
    -Seal used unusual ways for his music that no one would have thought of and it work very well he stated in and interview with Rick Beato “I just didn’t know you can do those kinds of things”
    -When writes measurement in inches and height it’s not quotation marks its straight lines

    Experiment:
    -Students were brought in by being arrested at different times and were chained and blindfolded and were getting paid for the prison experiment
    -Each student took a test and only a certain amount of students meant the requirements
    -There were three types of guards, the mean ones, the ones that followed the rules and the ones that did favors for the prisoners
    -At first the prisoners thought it was a joke, but got punished for it and it lead to a prisoner rebellion that was quickly stopped by the guards and the prisoners paid for it
    -As the experiment went on the producers, guards and prisoners went from an experiment to thinking it is real. One prisoner thought they couldn’t leave because they had to serve their time
    -It got so bad to the point in where the prisoners were being starved at points, had to go to the bathroom in buckets in their sell and were mentally and emotionally breaking down
    -Later on the producers had to be reminded that it was just an experiment and it ended the 7th day due to the mental state of everyone involved in the experiment

    Day 1
    -Uneventful

    Day 2
    -Early rebel
    -Guards fight back
    -Mental break down
    -Guards get more aggressive
    -Prisoner is removed

    Day 3
    -Hunger strike
    -Guards aggression escalated

    Day 4
    -Continues to escalate

    Day 5
    -Continues to escalate

    Day 6
    -Maslack visits the prison

    Day 7
    -Experiment ends

  24. Class notes:

    -Good class notes consists in purposeful summaries.
    – Summarizing everything isn’t helpful, unquoted information will give you the summary you need.

    – Good notes :
    straightforward hypothesis and conclusions.
    specific claims.
    clear summaries.
    – Bad notes:
    irrelevance.
    too much information.
    “what we talked about” to begin sentences.
    naming topics.

    – Wayback machine: used to track back articles and see how many people have copied it in the past years.

    – 10 shekels for lateness: penalization in order to avoid parents being late at picking up their children. ( failed )

  25. spatel8267's avatar spatel8267 says:

    Class notes
    Good class notes are purposeful summaries, which means not everything is going to summarize and only highlights the takeaways of the lecture. They reshape the narrative of the original material to suit the purpose of the summarizer.
    10 shekels for lateness
    A daycare in Israel had an issue with parents coming to pick their students late, so they present a 10 shekel fine for anyone who showed up late to pick their children.
    The Stanford Prison Experiment
    Researcher had college students at Stanford flip a coin to be placed as either a guard or prisoner . This experiment was used to tell whether or not people will abuse their power or will fight back or assume a victim role. Prisoners were punished differently. Some of them were blindfolded while being defended to the bathroom having their head shaved or wearing gowns with no undergarments.Also their food was unevenly rationed, and they live in poor conditions.
    Hypotheses are temporary.
    The process of writing an argument is cumulative, flexible and repetative .
    Way back machines are used to recover dead links from URL.

  26. -The empty bottle of scotch riddle is an example of how the english language can be misinterpreted.
    Good notes should be a meaningful summary.

    How to take good class notes: don’t summarize everything, reviews the important details that need to be memorized, and use your own words to paraphrase the authors’ POV in a

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